The other day I watched a program on Armenia .
They always put these programs on, to teach about genocide.
They showed Christmas trees planted by different countries
recognizing that indeed a genocide took place there.
Unlike with Hitler, who made it rather clear what he was doing with and to the Jews,
Armenia warred with the Turks and I am not sure if any Turkish leader stood up to declare that all Armenians in the world, had to be annihilated off the face of the earth.
Turkey, to my knowledge, was not aiming at world control like Hitler was.
Armenians were Christians and lived in Eastern Turkey and Western Russia and they were friends with Russia which disturbed the Turks. So the Turks, wanting an all Muslim country, gathered them up and murdered them.
The young people are being taught by survivors, that it is important to keep your own land and heritage if for nothing else than posterity but then they bring in the word genocide.
Genocide is an ugly word.
When I asked my Dad about the war and where he came from, he said what ever happened to me, has nothing to do with you, You are Canadian. This is your country. So if I was to learn anything, it had to come from other people and history books. After meeting other ethnic kids, and seeing how they shook over subjects dealing with the countries their parents came from, I have to say thanks to my parents. They did not put a stone on my back. Their country, would never be mine. That land, I could never call mine, any more than the people living there, would accept me anyway.To them I am a foreigner and I will never understand what they understand.
I may have a certain heritage but my land, is the one I live in.
This land raised me, fed me,
employed me, took care of me and raised my children. If I had to make a choice as to which land I'd fight for, it would be for my Canada.
Did Kruschev try to genocide his own people in Ukraine by taking all their wheat away leaving them to starve to death? In the papers they wrote it up as Ukrainian Famine.
The end result would have been the same.Kruschev was Ukrainian.
If we are to compare this to the number of Russian men/boys who were sent to fight with basically picks and shovels, against well equipped German troops and were not allowed to be taken prisoner without being called a traitor and killed or sent to Siberia sentenced to hard labor if they went home after the war, one could say Russia was genociding its' own people.
Of course this was not the case. Russia gave orders to her soldiers, to give the last breath to save the Motherland, from the Germans. Saying it this way, put it in a different light.
The Turks might have been given the same order under the threat of spreading Armenian Christianity. Their Quran specifically teaches all non muslims must die. In the end, there can only be one for peace to reign.
Throughout history, whole armies were felled in great battles.
Do we attach genocide to them as well?
This would include a lot of nations, not just Jews and Armenians.
So countries understand the pain in Armenia but there seems to be a bit of a problem to call this what happened in Armenia an actual genocide.It was ugly unacceptable, ruthless and typical behavior to be expected of a Muslim in the face of a Christian. It was A message to all, not to live in their countries unless you are Muslim.
When I watched this program on Armenia, I saw the plaques in front of trees as acts of kindness so people could heal. I still have to question the term Genocide because I don't feel this is a term that should be thrown around.
And it got me to thinking .
What if the so called Quiet Revolution, started by Liberal Jean Lessard and refined by Renee Levesque in Quebec, was overtaken by the English speaking people?
Political books were written claiming the Quebecois were the White Niggers of America, over this French/ English issue, and if the English rounded up all the nationalists, would the Quebecois claim genocide? This is basically what they were saying to the people and to the world, that if we don;t allow them to speak Quebecois, they were a dead group of people.
It never sat well with me, that my French neighbor, who lived the same way I did if not better,
could relate himself to the slavery that took place in US, in Quebec.
If the English fought and won, again, would the Quebecois have disappeared?
"Quebecois" is relatively a new term for French Canadians born in Quebec. If you went any where in the world, you would not find a "Quebecois" in history past 200 years or so, except Quebec. lol
Instead 700,000 English speaking people quietly left Quebec and the tetes carre who stayed, are always invited politely to leave. They are replaced by new French speaking immigrants, who have no idea, that they will be asked to leave next. and so.....the Quiet Revolution. lol
If the Quebecois won and did an ethnic cleansing because they want Quebec for the true Quebecois, not immigrants, what would this be called then?
Would the White Niggers of America be then associated with genociding other ethnic people if they didn't leave Quebec of their own volition?
The Quebecois are different from the French in France. In fact, French people in France, do not call the Quebecois people, French, because of the dialect. Every French teacher from France that we had, always told us what we had in Quebec, was not French lol So why were we learning it to survive in Quebec?
I have to admit, I loved the French language, from France.
We had one beautiful, young French teacher teaching us and one day after Christmas, we heard she went skiing and got into a fatal car accident coming home from the Laurentians. All the kids were devastated. She made learning French fun and we just couldn't believe she ended her life this way, so far away from home.
Of course General De Gaulle would have liked Quebec to separate because of old wounds between France and England and he can surely be blamed for sparking this language trouble in Quebec by coming as a guest and screaming at the top of his lungs : VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE!
Rather evil and sly of him . :)
This began a whole new era in Quebec which also was interesting to experience and live through.
We grew and learned a lot about life and people from this social experience.
Every one ignored the Catholic Religion which was the real cause, keeping people down and uneducated.
Even today. I went home to visit my parents, and this woman saw me and walked into their house like it belonged to her, to ask me if I visited Toronto. I was going to call the police because obviously she was deranged and could one day even be dangerous but then I decided not to begin a scandal in My Dad's house. She had no weapons but she could have .
This means, speaking French will never be enough for the Quebecois. You were not a Leduc or Brebuf, or Letourneau. These are Quebec names coming from way back when it all began here in Quebec.
In some ways, this behavior resembles what's going on with Islam today and in the past.
People lay blame on everything and everyone except the real causes that create the effects, ending in war and death and it's funny because land belongs to no one. We buy it but it can be expropriated any time by the country. Land belongs to no one. In fact in Belize where they grow cacao, the people don't want to own land. They want the government to buy it off of them saying we pay taxes and then are told what to do on it.lol I thought, hmmmm.
This person probably never went past grade 6 but speaks quite intelligently.
Why do we pay 1,000,000 dollars for homes today? They are not worth the price. They say we pay for the land. Even if there is no demand they put the prices up. Well, give the land back to Canada and Canada will employ you, to take care of your place of residence.
It's a job right there computers can't do. You pay rent, and the rest of the money is yours to do as you want. Today even waitress jobs are being eliminated. Computers take the orders and you also pay the machine at the table. Servers only serve, clean tables and are now denied a tip since they don't have to socialize with the customer.
This was a summer I spent glued to the radio listening to the Pat Burns Program discussing our Quebec problem with the people of Quebec and boy did it get hot!! No one knew who Pat Burns was because he would have been shot for discussing the French issues in Quebec. He sure did a lot of yelling .
Today, we see French speaking immigrants, who replaced the exiting English speaking people, are living well in Quebec, becoming MP's etc..... and everything looks fine on the surface because Quebec belongs to Canada.
But History has shown that it always pays to be careful and to
BEWARE the Radical element,( unless you have a ruthless dictator).
Radicals do the stepping stone routine. They always have a hidden agenda. They gain power being nice and then to do the other things, people who elect and help them, know nothing about.
Stalin ( killed 7 million and suppressed 50 million). He was a nice guy.
Hitler, Alexander the Great, were also nice guys.
Renee Levesque learned a lot from Nazi Germany, etc..
Nice guy. lol They changed Dorchester Street to Renee Levesque Str.to honor him.
And Islams Quran's teaching is similar to Hitlers' ,
except they want every person converted to Muslim or turned into slaves or worse if they can get away with it according to the Quran. In a way this makes Armenias' Claim valid but it doesn't just stop at Armenians. This was an active act, to aid in eradicating Christians from the face of the earth. Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Athiests , communists etc.....lol
So is this view considered genocide if it applies to religions and not to actual ethnic people themselves?
These are discrepancies no one discusses.
Was the Genocide on Armenians against a "people or against a religion"?
The genocide claimed against the Jews was against the people as a whole by Hitler.
He didn't care if they were blonde with blue eyes or changed their religion. It was Jewish blood and it had to be eliminated off the face of the planet as if they were aliens, who landed here and a full scale war ensued to get them off the planet. No one knew the Slavs were next on his list in his mission to create an Aryan race.
In Quebec they changed the license plates from la belle province to je me souviens.
Hardly amicable to drive a car with such a license plate considering what they are implying with it. It's political and hardly speaks for our province. We have nicer things to remember.
Che Guevera said: Cruel leaders are replaced only to have new leaders turn cruel.
In Canada, we have no cruel leaders so what do the French Nationals really want?
Right now we can drive from coast to coast without borders.
Canadians are truly blessed.
Will we be left one day, with only memories of this as well?
We are only travelers and land belongs to no one.
Every one should be able to enjoy this planet amicably without hate.
And as for Armenia, the Turks will never admit to the true reasons behind what they did.
They will hide it as they always did behind, not being allowed to discuss Muhhammad and there will always be a question as to if indeed, this was a real genocide that took place there.
Genocide means to do an act of violence to eliminate a group of people. In war, revolutions etc... people die but it's never a genocide. Never total annihilation but then I haven't studied small tribes with religions which may have already been annihilated.
As far as I can see or understand, Hitler did not succeed in his genocide mission either.
He performed horrendous, unspeakable acts on a people, but he did not eliminate the Jews.
Now I will have both Jews and Armenians mad at me lol
I am a person who doesn't like secrets. If you have to keep a secret,then it must be because it's offensive to someone . It's nice to be a free person, to be able to walk tall, be free to make your own decisions about life, discuss your beliefs,dress how you want and not be challenged by things which really do not matter in life.Of course some laws need to exist to keep order and the aim is to always grow to become better , smarter people.
Something to think about .
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I was a very happy man. My wonderful girlfriend and I had been
dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married. There was
only one little thing bothering me...It was her beautiful younger sister.
dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married. There was
only one little thing bothering me...It was her beautiful younger sister.
My prospective sister-in-law was twenty-two, wore very tight mini
skirts, and generally was bra-less. She would regularly bend down
when she was near me, and I always got more than a nice view. It had
to be deliberate because she never did it when she was near anyone else.
skirts, and generally was bra-less. She would regularly bend down
when she was near me, and I always got more than a nice view. It had
to be deliberate because she never did it when she was near anyone else.
One day her 'little' sister called and asked me to come over to
check the wedding invitations. She was alone when I arrived, and she
whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that she
couldn't overcome. She told me that she wanted me just once before I
got married and committed my life to her sister.
check the wedding invitations. She was alone when I arrived, and she
whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that she
couldn't overcome. She told me that she wanted me just once before I
got married and committed my life to her sister.
Well, I was in total shock and couldn't say a word.
She said, 'I'm going upstairs to my bedroom, and if you want one
last wild fling, just come up and get me.'
last wild fling, just come up and get me.'
I was stunned and frozen in shock as I watched her go up the stairs.
I stood there for a moment, then turned and made a beeline straight
to the front door. I opened the door, and headed straight towards my car.
I stood there for a moment, then turned and made a beeline straight
to the front door. I opened the door, and headed straight towards my car.
Lord... And behold, my entire future family was standing outside,
all clapping!
all clapping!
With tears in his eyes, my father-in-law hugged me and said, 'We are
very happy that you have passed our little test. We couldn't ask for
a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family.'
And the moral of this story is: Always keep your condoms in your car.very happy that you have passed our little test. We couldn't ask for
a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family.'
Have a good one :)
4 comments:
I think we live in a hard world sometimes. Yet we all crave kindness and a bit of understanding. The extremes are deadly.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Well Sandy I try because the issues need to be discussed especially today. Words like genocide do not help matters.
I lived on a multinational street and I think this is a better way to live then to build communities full of the same people. Kids have to go to multinational schools or they end up being taught to be different instead of being American or Canadian. Or north American lol
Society is interdependent so why separate on issues?
I pray that my grandchildren and their children will know a world without genocide.
Akelamalu - I also pray for the same thing. It just takes one crazy person and the world is full of them.
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